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Swopping a Mk2 front suspension onto my Mk1

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Re: Swopping a Mk2 front suspension onto my Mk1

Postby Bluebell18 » Wed Feb 05, 2020 7:31 pm

To be honest I have no idea, the uprights are fairly solid units so degradation due to corrosion will be a lot less than on the thin sheet steel of the lower arms.
Hence my desire to change.
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Postby Mazda Mender » Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:18 pm

Looking at the protection you did..they should still be not to bad.
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Postby Bluebell18 » Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:35 pm

Well I have got the bits now and I feel that it is time to do something major, think it's call spanner itch, spanneritus or something similar.
Haven't done much recently apart from burst heater pipe replacement and rebrushing the alternator that was on the blink.
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Re: Swopping a Mk2 front suspension onto my Mk1

Postby Bluebell18 » Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:06 pm

In between treating the garden fence panels, a start has been made and as promised a few photos.

I unpacked the two s/hand front hubs and they are the usual rusty collection of bits.

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Next I started to dismantle one hub, getting the dust cap off was the first obstacle as it looked fairly new and I was keen to not damage it, the nut followed and I immediately discovered why this is easier when it is all attached to the car.
Nut off and I withdrew the hub which I may reuse as it appears to be in good condition, the three brake shield bolts needed some release fluid but finally came free with a breaker bar.
The bottom ball joint needed the large separator but I finally had a collection of parts.

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Well almost as this donor vehicle had ABS so the sensor also needed removing, how you do this on the car I can only imagine!
The hub has the toothed ring and I would be interested to know if this is removable or do I just leave it be?
The upright was next introduced to the wire brush on the angle grinder and finally coated in Deox rust remover and left in a sealed plastic bag overnight.

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All for now, more to follow.
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Re: Swopping a Mk2 front suspension onto my Mk1

Postby Mazda Mender » Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:25 pm

The hub has the toothed ring and I would be interested to know if this is removable or do I just leave it be?


Leave it be, it is for the ABS sensor pick up,will not give any uses to not change them bud.
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Re: Swopping a Mk2 front suspension onto my Mk1

Postby Bluebell18 » Fri Feb 07, 2020 11:28 pm

Mm

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Postby Bluebell18 » Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:12 pm

Storm Ciara and the weather is not conducive to working outdoors.

So as start was made on painting the Mk2 parts, the upright is sound and now looks resplendent in a coat of red oxide primer and because the hub bearings appear to be ok this has been similarly sprayed.

Whist these were drying in the warm workshop I ventured into the cold garage to compare an original Mk1 wishbone with the Mk2 copy part, a few photos and observations follow.

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First impression of the top surface is of a clean pressing, new ball joint & rubbers and a good coat of paint. Interestingly all the welds have a blue line which I assume is a QC check either at source or by the UK supplier. Metal is the same thickness.

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Underneath is a similar story however the lower plate is extended to the large central hole. This made me wonder, was it for the ABS bracket or had I got the wrong part. Autolinks website has a helpful photo of a Mk1,Mk2 & Mk2.5 wishbone and the Mk2.5 has the extended plate. I check my order and it was correct, I compared the shape and dimension with a Mk1 component and it was the same and finally I looked at a major parts supplier's website to find that their Mk1 part also had the extended plate.

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Welds look ok.

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Old and new comparison.

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Postby Mazda Mender » Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:19 pm

:handgestures-thumbup: :coffee:
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Re: Swopping a Mk2 front suspension onto my Mk1

Postby GlennyGills » Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:39 pm

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Re: Swopping a Mk2 front suspension onto my Mk1

Postby Bluebell18 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:32 pm

Wrong adjective, cautiously would be more appropriate.
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Postby Bluebell18 » Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:57 pm

Progress is slow, thanks to the weather but the uprights are now painted and the hub/bearings sorted however the search for newish brake shields has proved pointless in this country. I will probably be able to reclaim the exiting units but this will take time and I am trying to minimise the down time by having everything ready to bolt back on.

Having sourced the correct size 29mm socket I note from the manual that to preload the bearings on assembly a torque of 123 - 159 ft/lbs is required, this is beyond my present torque wrench so the source is on for an affordable one. Would be interested to know why such a range and more importantly what figure I am aiming for?

As I will be removing the lower wishbone I have ordered new camber adjustment bolts, again when I reassemble what/how should I set these up? I appreciate that a full alignment is the answer but to keep the budget within limits I will be doing the rear end next year. Can one have just the front end aligned or does it have to be the whole car? :think:

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Re: Swopping a Mk2 front suspension onto my Mk1

Postby Mazda Mender » Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:18 am

We highly recommend having a full alignment done...the benefits will speak for themselves when you drive the mx after it as been done...fast road is the one to get don't go for the standard alignment..it is a waste of time.
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