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Re: Floppy Seat belts

Postby paggers » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:39 pm

Lazza wrote:They have some weird de-tensioner thing. No idea why. I guess Japs don't like to feel a tight seatbelt :roll:

So this is an option on certain cars then? Certainly didn't exist on either of my UK-spec or Import-spec Mk1 cars. Still gonna need to see pics before I really believe it - sounds like the wierdest thing. (Not entirely convinced that there isn't some leg pulling going on here.)
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Re: Floppy Seat belts

Postby Mazda Mender » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:44 pm

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mazda-mender wrote:The tension on the belts
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Nothing personal but I'm gonna need to see pics before I believe that there is an electric seat belt retraction system rather than a good old fashioned spring (which is what I know my car has).

Pic's of what???
Try it, the belts have a eletric detension thing only fitted to the jap roadsters, (double conection plug)and stops it from fully tensioning,removing the fuse will make it fullly tension, but what would i know???
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Re: Floppy Seat belts

Postby Lazza » Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:26 am

It's not on UK cars and I don't think it's all JDM cars. It's not on our 94 1.6 JDM track car. I have seen it on earlier JDM cars though so maybe they deleted it after a certain date?
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Re: Floppy Seat belts

Postby paggers » Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:10 pm

mazda-mender wrote:Try it, the belts have a eletric detension thing only fitted to the jap roadsters, (double conection plug)and stops it from fully tensioning,removing the fuse will make it fullly tension, but what would i know???
M-m

Wayne I stripped the belts out of my '95 UK-spec car and used them to replace the belts in my '91 Eunos (the belts from which ended up on your garage floor). Neither had any electric connection to the belt reels. So whatever you are talking about doesn't fit in with my experience. Which is why I'm not saying I don't entirely believe you, but I would need to see pictures to be convinced as neither of the cars I have owned had anything like this. Don't take it personally, I know you know lots about these cars, I'm just being suitably sceptical.
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Re: Floppy Seat belts

Postby mk1divemaster » Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:15 pm

There's no fuse on my mk1 import !! Lol and checked workshop manual no joy there either ,

Can't wait to see where this is going !!! :coffee:
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Re: Floppy Seat belts

Postby Lazza » Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:54 pm

I knew I'd read 1st hand experience of it somewhere...
http://www.planetmx5.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=16254#p16254
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Re: Floppy Seat belts

Postby mk1divemaster » Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:04 am

I'm aghast !!

When I get home from work I'm going to check under my seat to !! :think:
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Re: Floppy Seat belts

Postby Lazza » Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:42 am

It might only be certain models or years, it certainly doesn't seem to be all of them. Either way, it seems to only be JDM cars and not UK.
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Re: Floppy Seat belts

Postby rosko » Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:05 pm

Have got replacements for the Mk1 ,how do I fit them?? :text-thankyouyellow:
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Re: Floppy Seat belts

Postby paggers » Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:22 pm

You need to remove the plastic trim panel that covers the seat belt tower and you will see the mechanism inside. There are two bolts that secure the reel and another at the bottom that secures the other end of the belt. You may well need to remove the seat - it may be possible to do with the seat in the car but I have never tried it that way myself. It's not that difficult, just a bit fiddly I guess with getting the trim panel out of the way.

I can't speak to the electrical connector as none of my cars have had that but I assume it will be fairly obvious where it connects and how.
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Re: Floppy Seat belts

Postby rosko » Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:17 am

:text-thankyouyellow: :handgestures-thumbup:
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Re: Floppy Seat belts

Postby storm » Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:20 am

funnily enough I also thought it was for the seatbelt warning light or something so I refit the 10A fuse,... and yes,... that is when it all started to go a bit slack.

Wish I'd known before splurging on a new set,... I guess it's time to put the old ones up on the buy & sell Page

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Re: Floppy Seat belts

Postby Mazda Mender » Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:01 pm

It is just a case of removing the fuse, :handgestures-thumbup: :coffee: :wink:
No need to be removing trim ,seats etc.
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Mk 2 .1/4 Roadster 99 black & gold V.S 1.8 being rebuilt,
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Mk1 Eunos 93 1.6 black S special **gone**
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Re: Floppy Seat belts

Postby Starbaby » Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:42 pm

paggers wrote:
mazda-mender wrote:It's a jap thing ,let me find which fuse that you need to remove and it will tighten up, i'll need to check the hong kong book of kung fu, and get back to you.
M-m

Really? Having had the seatbelts out in both my current '91 V-Spec Roadster and my previous '95 1.8i S MX-5 I can confirm that there are no electrical connections to the seat belt reels. What would the fuse be for? :???:

Well there certainly is in MINE! I just posted asking what the heck they were for, I don't have an airbag, nor a seat belt buzzer that I can find.
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Re: Floppy Seat belts

Postby Real Rayzor » Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:22 am

I can't remember but I read or saw somewhere that if you pull the belt all the way out and spray furniture polish on the belt it it drastically improves the action and speed of the belt retraction. :handgestures-thumbup:

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