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Re: 1.6 brake upgrade

Postby Mazda Mender » Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:30 pm

madmanstiff wrote:Would 15 inch be big enough?

14" and 15 " will be fine, the only 14" rims i personally hit problems with was the very early Spoke wire rims which were made for the 1.6 in mind so are a very tight fit for the 1.8, but with a bit of a fettle with the positions of the wheel/tyre wieghts you can just get away with them to fit.
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Re: 1.6 brake upgrade

Postby Tangoman » Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:10 pm

My 14" Wats fit over the 1.8 brakes just fine! Worthwhile upgrade. :handgestures-thumbup:
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Re: 1.6 brake upgrade

Postby Mazda Mender » Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:01 pm

To be honest the 1.6 set up is just as good as the 1.8 set up, it is just down to how they are being looked after and pads that are being used. the Large so called sports brakes are a waste of time , and forget it as a Up grade, if it was worth doing ,i personally would of done it many many years ago.
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Re: 1.6 brake upgrade

Postby blackyb » Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:13 pm

Been keeping an eye on this one as now we have sold our Sport with the "BIG BRAKES" we are going to be running our 1991 1.6 in all but standard trim.

On my to do list is the brakes so before I go and buy a replacement set or upgrade to 1.8 brakes, I will read on and make an informed decision based upon peoples experience and views.

That said the little brakes on the Eunos seem just fine under reasonable driving conditions.

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Re: 1.6 brake upgrade

Postby Yolo » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:05 am

Wayne wrote:To be honest the 1.6 set up is just as good as the 1.8 set up, it is just down to how they are being looked after and pads that are being used. the Large so called sports brakes are a waste of time , and forget it as a Up grade, if it was worth doing ,i personally would of done it many many years ago.
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Wayne I will have to do pads and discs at some stage so I figured I would "upgrade" while I was at it. Are you saying it's not really worth it? What about braided hoses? Just thinking about getting it all done and hoping they last another 22years... Lol. :confusion-confused: :confusion-confused:
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Re: 1.6 brake upgrade

Postby Mazda Mender » Mon Jun 30, 2014 7:17 am

If you want to upgrade , then go for it, all i am saying is if i was running a 1.6 again as a daily i can think of better things to put my money into before i would upgrade the braking system that is more than up to the job, thats all, it is not a problem upgrading , as i do it for a lot of owners, i am just being honest.
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Re: 1.6 brake upgrade

Postby madmanstiff » Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:21 am

I'm purely doing my car on a budget the eventual goal is for it to be a track day car so I'm just upgrading the parts as they need replacing. my brakes are shot so anything I do to them is going to make a noticeable difference. Plus it has worked out to be an extra £90 to upgrade to the 1.8 brakes with grooved discs and braided brake lines than it would have been to just swap out the standard discs and pads. Hopefully the gains will out way the cost.
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Re: 1.6 brake upgrade

Postby Mazda Mender » Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:29 pm

If the 1.6 brakes you have on now are fudged then it is a no brainer as you would be replacing them any way, tip.... get a big blob of blue tack to help with changing brake pipes :wink: and you must invest in one of these....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Draper-Brake- ... 1e8d225b6d


We have a how to on doing brakes, so a tin of copper slip will be needed and red rubber grease so they all work at there best and last :wink: if you need advice , just ask.
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Mk 2 .1/4 Roadster 99 black & gold V.S 1.8 being rebuilt,
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Re: 1.6 brake upgrade

Postby nedski » Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:16 pm

I would agree with Wayne that as a daily drive the 1.6 brakes are fine.
It's only when you take to the track for some action that the 1.8 brakes will out perform the 1.6 It's not just the actual stopping power but the ability of the bigger brakes to dissipate the heat of fifteen or twenty minutes thrashing without boiling the fluid or cooking the brake pads. Even then you will need some uprated brake pads to cope with the heat.

So unless you are pushing pushing pushing on track then there aren't any huge gains. In my humble opinion anyway :-D
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Re: 1.6 brake upgrade

Postby Yolo » Tue Jul 01, 2014 5:55 pm

Wayne wrote:If the 1.6 brakes you have on now are fudged then it is a no brainer as you would be replacing them any way, tip.... get a big blob of blue tack to help with changing brake pipes :wink: and you must invest in one of these....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Draper-Brake- ... 1e8d225b6d


We have a how to on doing brakes, so a tin of copper slip will be needed and red rubber grease so they all work at there best and last :wink: if you need advice , just ask.
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Good to know.... :text-thankyouyellow: Like madman it's not a lot more for something I am going to need done.

At the risk of getting off topic and just out of curiosity what would you spend your money on Wayne? :-D
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Re: 1.6 brake upgrade

Postby Mazda Mender » Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:04 pm

Water pump change ,cam belt change ,full service, seals and boots, good tyres ,a full alignment service brakes, fit good pads and disks, Roof if needed, suspension if needed , a spare key if needed and enjoy her. :-D :coffee: :handgestures-thumbup:
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Mk 1 Eunos 93 black V.S II 1.8 ,
Mk 2 .1/4 Roadster 99 black & gold V.S 1.8 being rebuilt,
Mk 1 Eunos 90 1.6 (claimed by daughter)
MK 2.1/4 Blue V.S Roadster 1.8 99 ...being rebuilt

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Re: 1.6 brake upgrade

Postby Yolo » Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:55 pm

Wayne wrote:Water pump change ,cam belt change ,full service, seals and boots, good tyres ,a full alignment service brakes, fit good pads and disks, Roof if needed, suspension if needed , a spare key if needed and enjoy her. :-D :coffee: :handgestures-thumbup:
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He he I can tick some of those off, suspension and bushes swapped, alignment done, timing belt done just before I got it, second service with me due soon, pads part of the planned brake change, hood still ok for now... Still enjoying it big time.... :auto-layrubber: :handgestures-thumbup:
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Re: 1.6 brake upgrade

Postby madmanstiff » Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:00 pm

Haha SPARE KEY is a definite if you don't already have one. I learnt this lesson the hard way then had a pricy job getting a new one as it's chipped :( I'm hoping to do a big weekend when I do the breaks and get the suspension track rod ends and ball joints all done ready for the alignment. I have a set of 14" alloys waiting to go matt black and the new hangers are being sand blasted so that I can paint them. Just waiting for the money for the pads and discs atm.
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Re: 1.6 brake upgrade

Postby Yolo » Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:37 pm

:text-goodpost:

Take plenty of pics once you get started!! Thankfully mine came with two keys neither of which are chipped!!!
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Re: 1.6 brake upgrade

Postby drumtochty » Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:01 pm

madmanstiff wrote:Haha SPARE KEY is a definite if you don't already have one. I learnt this lesson the hard way then had a pricy job getting a new one as it's chipped :( I'm hoping to do a big weekend when I do the breaks and get the suspension track rod ends and ball joints all done ready for the alignment. I have a set of 14" alloys waiting to go matt black and the new hangers are being sand blasted so that I can paint them. Just waiting for the money for the pads and discs atm.


Timpsons for a key are the cheapest I have found as they just put the original chip number on the new key chip.

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