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Greetings and welcome to menders, this site was built for every owner that might need her to help keep those bills low and also keep them on the road where they belong, she is run by very passionate enthusiasts owners for passionate enthusiastic owners, see her like a on line garage, there is a lot of tech stuff hopefully explained for everyone to use, if there is something you cannot get your head around, or you feel that there is a strong walk through guide missing that needs creating by one of us or from yourselves, please let us know, we are also on false book and youtube, which as short tech vids to help, and again if you feel there is a vid that would help please get it touch.
the menders is free, but like everything there is a cost to run things and bills( we are just happy its not a heating cost), so if we have saved you hundreds, please throw a small donation in the pot so we can keep on going to carry on helping others in the same way .
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2002 Arizona Rebuild
Re: 2002 Arizona Rebuild
I have an air powered grinder that takes 2" slitting discs. (had it for ages - dont know where I got it from)
It's ok for certain tight areas but being air driven the dammed couplings often get in the way.
As for what your tackling, respect!
It's ok for certain tight areas but being air driven the dammed couplings often get in the way.
As for what your tackling, respect!
1993 1.6 Eunos Roadster (gone)
1998 UK Mk 2 1.6 (gone)
2003 1.8 SVT Sport (shouldnt have sold it)
1991 1.6 Eunos Roadster with a bit of bling.
Life is a journey, best travelled topless in an MX5!!
1998 UK Mk 2 1.6 (gone)
2003 1.8 SVT Sport (shouldnt have sold it)
1991 1.6 Eunos Roadster with a bit of bling.
Life is a journey, best travelled topless in an MX5!!
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Re: 2002 Arizona Rebuild
Thought about it and I think the best way is going to be just to cut the inner sill a bit higher up, the outer has to come off anyway and the inner looks to have an inch of rust on the bottom. Dunno, probably take way too long and overcomplicate it anyway
Did a bit today, made up the piece next to the sill and plate, welded it in
Made the little return piece in, butt welded the edge and did one plug weld then hammered it over and did the other plug weld
Then the plate above. Welding isn't the neatest, i was having a right job joining it to the inner arch
Filled some of the spot weld drill holes that'd gone through too
Did a bit today, made up the piece next to the sill and plate, welded it in
Made the little return piece in, butt welded the edge and did one plug weld then hammered it over and did the other plug weld
Then the plate above. Welding isn't the neatest, i was having a right job joining it to the inner arch
Filled some of the spot weld drill holes that'd gone through too
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Re: 2002 Arizona Rebuild
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Mk 1 Eunos 90 1.6 soul red ..f/ build
MK 2.1/4 Blue V.S Roadster 1.8 99 ..
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Re: 2002 Arizona Rebuild
great work as always Lumphammer.. keep the updates coming
PS how do you take such great pics lol!! they are always so clear and show so much detail
PS how do you take such great pics lol!! they are always so clear and show so much detail
S-Ltd - Ongoing project, far from standard!
J-Ltd - (Mrs's) - New project, staying standard (ish)
J-Ltd - (Mrs's) - New project, staying standard (ish)
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Re: 2002 Arizona Rebuild
Thanks! It's just a phone - not an expensive one either
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Re: 2002 Arizona Rebuild
Got the new arch and repaired battery section in today. I shot blasted them and painted with a zinc epoxy in the week, ground back the paint on the plug weld holes and put some weld trough primer on it
Didn't get any pictures of getting the arch in but this was the battery section
And the finished lot - glad this is over.. on this side..
After much thinking worked out how and where to cut the outer sill
This is where I expect the cut line to go for the new outer sill
For the front I needed to take it high to get access to this bit which goes up about 5" beyond the normal cut line people seem to use
So I've cut part of the outer piece that wraps the a-pillar and back of the rear arch - this will either be a good idea or a bad idea.. dunno which yet!
When the old outer sill is removed it should give good access, i'll likely remove the reinforcement plate as the rot is slightly behind it
I was extremely careful to not distort the removed piece as it'll be reused (shotblasted / zinc epoxy etc)
There was much carefulling around the a pillar for obvious reasons. I kissed it in two places but barely feelable. Decided to go straight through the return lip because i couldn't think of much alternative when trying to preserve the removed part. Easy to weld up from inside the car
Need to take up this side of the carpet and move the loom over as i'll be welding onto the floor
Didn't get any pictures of getting the arch in but this was the battery section
And the finished lot - glad this is over.. on this side..
After much thinking worked out how and where to cut the outer sill
This is where I expect the cut line to go for the new outer sill
For the front I needed to take it high to get access to this bit which goes up about 5" beyond the normal cut line people seem to use
So I've cut part of the outer piece that wraps the a-pillar and back of the rear arch - this will either be a good idea or a bad idea.. dunno which yet!
When the old outer sill is removed it should give good access, i'll likely remove the reinforcement plate as the rot is slightly behind it
I was extremely careful to not distort the removed piece as it'll be reused (shotblasted / zinc epoxy etc)
There was much carefulling around the a pillar for obvious reasons. I kissed it in two places but barely feelable. Decided to go straight through the return lip because i couldn't think of much alternative when trying to preserve the removed part. Easy to weld up from inside the car
Need to take up this side of the carpet and move the loom over as i'll be welding onto the floor
Re: 2002 Arizona Rebuild
Loving the updates. Keep up the good work
1993 1.6 Eunos Roadster (gone)
1998 UK Mk 2 1.6 (gone)
2003 1.8 SVT Sport (shouldnt have sold it)
1991 1.6 Eunos Roadster with a bit of bling.
Life is a journey, best travelled topless in an MX5!!
1998 UK Mk 2 1.6 (gone)
2003 1.8 SVT Sport (shouldnt have sold it)
1991 1.6 Eunos Roadster with a bit of bling.
Life is a journey, best travelled topless in an MX5!!
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Re: 2002 Arizona Rebuild
Thanks BB
Did some more today. Removed the outer sill from the front to get access to the rotten part
Unfortunately at this point I found out there was a considerable amount of rot behind the lower part of the a pillar. I needed to take the bottom section off to get to it and I didn't feel comfortable with the car un braced as this part must be adding considerable strength. Didn't want to have to brace it as it makes access difficult on top
Removed the small reinforcement piece above the part needing repair to get access. Cut line was chosen to be convienient as it's a bit tight in there
Cut out the rotten part as cleanly as possible, it's got a quite complex shape up the front
And then removed the lower part of the a pillar to get acess to the custy area behind
Will remove the reinforcement piece which is left in with one spot weld and that should make repairing it OK
Did some more today. Removed the outer sill from the front to get access to the rotten part
Unfortunately at this point I found out there was a considerable amount of rot behind the lower part of the a pillar. I needed to take the bottom section off to get to it and I didn't feel comfortable with the car un braced as this part must be adding considerable strength. Didn't want to have to brace it as it makes access difficult on top
Removed the small reinforcement piece above the part needing repair to get access. Cut line was chosen to be convienient as it's a bit tight in there
Cut out the rotten part as cleanly as possible, it's got a quite complex shape up the front
And then removed the lower part of the a pillar to get acess to the custy area behind
Will remove the reinforcement piece which is left in with one spot weld and that should make repairing it OK
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Re: 2002 Arizona Rebuild
The rusty part you have taken off at the bottom of the door piller that comes out from the body, according to the guys at the MX5 restorer is not available to purchase. They either repair it and put back on if possible if it needs to come off. Or they make a new one but say repair if possibe as it is difficult to remake.
I will probably be cutting and welding in around 10 days or so.
I will probably be cutting and welding in around 10 days or so.
1999 Mk2 Silver
2008 Mk3 Copper Red gone
2018 Mk4 GT+ Red
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2008 Mk3 Copper Red gone
2018 Mk4 GT+ Red
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Re: 2002 Arizona Rebuild
Not surprised you can't buy it, I think a lot of the internal structure bits are like that.
I removed it carefully and to be fair it's not in too bad condition rust wise but does need some areas patching. Need to work out how to do the floor to sill, I'd imagined it'd be a single piece but it looks to be made of 3(..?) sections with lap joints / spot welds between. The steel looks thinner than I'd expected too
Hope your project goes well, what are you doing?
I removed it carefully and to be fair it's not in too bad condition rust wise but does need some areas patching. Need to work out how to do the floor to sill, I'd imagined it'd be a single piece but it looks to be made of 3(..?) sections with lap joints / spot welds between. The steel looks thinner than I'd expected too
Hope your project goes well, what are you doing?
Re: 2002 Arizona Rebuild
It's not till you follow threads like this that you realise the complexity of the unseen internal metal work and bracing that's been required to give the MX its strength.
It's also not till you follow and read these threads that you also realise, where there's a will there's a way.
Thanks to people like you and drumtochty who take the time to catalogue your builds for the rest of us to follow and admire also gives us hope that if needs be maybe we could do the same.
It's also not till you follow and read these threads that you also realise, where there's a will there's a way.
Thanks to people like you and drumtochty who take the time to catalogue your builds for the rest of us to follow and admire also gives us hope that if needs be maybe we could do the same.
1993 1.6 Eunos Roadster (gone)
1998 UK Mk 2 1.6 (gone)
2003 1.8 SVT Sport (shouldnt have sold it)
1991 1.6 Eunos Roadster with a bit of bling.
Life is a journey, best travelled topless in an MX5!!
1998 UK Mk 2 1.6 (gone)
2003 1.8 SVT Sport (shouldnt have sold it)
1991 1.6 Eunos Roadster with a bit of bling.
Life is a journey, best travelled topless in an MX5!!
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Re: 2002 Arizona Rebuild
Removed all the cutter and obstructions to the floor to sill replacement
This shows the layup of the floor to sill panels, there are three - one each end and one in the middle on top. This is the rear lap
And the front which is similar
Decided that when the rottem section was removed I'd have no reference for where the lips should go, so i created a removeable build to reference. It's connected to the front and rear hubs where the caliper yokes go
It gives a straight reasonably rigid reference to work to - just dont move the steering
The first part to be rebuilt is the front part which is under the reinforcement panel
I've got two replacements from autolink but for now i just cut out what i needed
I made the replacement sitting on top of the existing which helps with getting it right
and then cut the old bit out to sink it back
and welded it in, havent dressed anything yet but will do
as the floor to sill panels are layed up on top of each other i cut the middle one a bit higher up - carefull not to go through the ones underneath
the water really likes to wick up these...
Then cut the underlapping one about 1/2" further down so i can get a neat but weld on the replacment panel
Cut the front replacement piece to fit
Unfortunately there is a 4mm gap to the build to reference
I thought it was me doing something wrong but it looks like the panel is off bugger...
This will be a bit of a delay, I asked the manufacturer about it so hopefully they'll come back with a solution
Need to work out how to do the jack points in the floor to sill section, i'm not really sure i need them as i haven't jacked it up on the sills for years but if possible i'd like to remake them. They look like this just a bit less rusty and crumpled
This shows the layup of the floor to sill panels, there are three - one each end and one in the middle on top. This is the rear lap
And the front which is similar
Decided that when the rottem section was removed I'd have no reference for where the lips should go, so i created a removeable build to reference. It's connected to the front and rear hubs where the caliper yokes go
It gives a straight reasonably rigid reference to work to - just dont move the steering
The first part to be rebuilt is the front part which is under the reinforcement panel
I've got two replacements from autolink but for now i just cut out what i needed
I made the replacement sitting on top of the existing which helps with getting it right
and then cut the old bit out to sink it back
and welded it in, havent dressed anything yet but will do
as the floor to sill panels are layed up on top of each other i cut the middle one a bit higher up - carefull not to go through the ones underneath
the water really likes to wick up these...
Then cut the underlapping one about 1/2" further down so i can get a neat but weld on the replacment panel
Cut the front replacement piece to fit
Unfortunately there is a 4mm gap to the build to reference
I thought it was me doing something wrong but it looks like the panel is off bugger...
This will be a bit of a delay, I asked the manufacturer about it so hopefully they'll come back with a solution
Need to work out how to do the jack points in the floor to sill section, i'm not really sure i need them as i haven't jacked it up on the sills for years but if possible i'd like to remake them. They look like this just a bit less rusty and crumpled
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Re: 2002 Arizona Rebuild
The "that small job expands" springs to mind.
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Mk 1 Eunos 93 black V.S II 1.8 ,
Mk 2 .1/4 Roadster 99 black & gold V.S 1.8 .
Mk 1 Eunos 90 1.6 soul red ..f/ build
MK 2.1/4 Blue V.S Roadster 1.8 99 ..
MK1 1.8 ,white import.. (Ashleighs)
MK1 1.6 yellow J ltd import.f/build
MK 1 1.8 black Tokyo Ltd..f/build
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Mk 1 Eunos 93 black V.S II 1.8 ,
Mk 2 .1/4 Roadster 99 black & gold V.S 1.8 .
Mk 1 Eunos 90 1.6 soul red ..f/ build
MK 2.1/4 Blue V.S Roadster 1.8 99 ..
MK1 1.8 ,white import.. (Ashleighs)
MK1 1.6 yellow J ltd import.f/build
MK 1 1.8 black Tokyo Ltd..f/build
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Re: 2002 Arizona Rebuild
Yeah.. it's a rust onion..
To be fair I'm taking it further than the minimum I could get away with but if I don't fix all the stuff I find then it'll be back where it was in a couple of years time.
To be fair I'm taking it further than the minimum I could get away with but if I don't fix all the stuff I find then it'll be back where it was in a couple of years time.
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Re: 2002 Arizona Rebuild
Lumphammer wrote:Yeah.. it's a rust onion..
To be fair I'm taking it further than the minimum I could get away with but if I don't fix all the stuff I find then it'll be back where it was in a couple of years time.
100% agree, you knew deep down it was going to end up this route...they always do , simply because right is right and fulfilled and know it's done.
I feel your pain with ever build I do.
The worst hurdle is starting ,once your over that line you grit teeth and deep in the zone and focused until finished, when you step back and yeah .
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Mk 1 Eunos 93 black V.S II 1.8 ,
Mk 2 .1/4 Roadster 99 black & gold V.S 1.8 .
Mk 1 Eunos 90 1.6 soul red ..f/ build
MK 2.1/4 Blue V.S Roadster 1.8 99 ..
MK1 1.8 ,white import.. (Ashleighs)
MK1 1.6 yellow J ltd import.f/build
MK 1 1.8 black Tokyo Ltd..f/build
http://www.mx5oc.co.uk/ http://www.mx5nutz.com/forum/ http://miata.net/ http://www.autolinkuk.co.uk/
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Mk 1 Eunos 93 black V.S II 1.8 ,
Mk 2 .1/4 Roadster 99 black & gold V.S 1.8 .
Mk 1 Eunos 90 1.6 soul red ..f/ build
MK 2.1/4 Blue V.S Roadster 1.8 99 ..
MK1 1.8 ,white import.. (Ashleighs)
MK1 1.6 yellow J ltd import.f/build
MK 1 1.8 black Tokyo Ltd..f/build
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